Another wide-ranging discussion: institutions, telepathy, harmony, origins, mistakes, personal growth,…

Introduction

This series describes a past life I have entered more than twenty-one times. My purposes are to record these experiences as guidance for my own growth, to remind all of us of what is possible as humans, and to affirm and encourage you in your own explorations of realms beyond the physical.

I returned from every one of these journeys feeling affirmed, expanded, and awestruck. What I learned there was beyond anything I could have conceived of. The most inspiring realization was that what I experienced in Lemuria is possible now, in the 21st century.

My process has been to narrate and record these journeys while in trance, create the transcript, then review the recordings to edit and amplify the transcript. This has enabled me to explore and document aspects of the journey that moved and changed too quickly to describe fully at the time. The result is a much deeper and more complete description of the events, perceptions, and learnings of these journeys.

A suggestion: If you haven’t read the back story of these past life journeys presented in Part 1, I recommend that you do so. The Medium article describing that first journey is here.

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Arrival and Embodiment: Keth at 350 Years

…I come out into the past life. I feel very much for the moment like a visitor. Then I can feel myself inside a body. This is Keth.

I am Keth. I’m sitting in a place that reminds Wes of a sit spot, a place of solitude and reflection in nature. This is a natural setting but it’s also beautifully tended and garden-like. It’s not wild. I like to be here just to contemplate, just to be, to allow my developing wisdom to come to consciousness or to be present within me. I am appreciating exploring the meaning of my life to this point.

I am 350 years old. I am still working, and yet I take a lot of time just to allow my experiences to ripen within me. I am enjoying this process of recognizing and being able to experience as an internal observer the development of my understanding of what is true and what is meaningful for me. Wes would call it wisdom. It’s a very satisfying process. When I was younger I had no idea how rich life could become and how important it was to have the experiences that I’ve had. I am grateful for my life. I love my life.

Institutions Without Laws

I come out of this enjoyable reverie and turn my attention to my visitor, who has questions for me. I asked him to please articulate them one at a time.

Wes’s first question is, “What institutions do we have here?”

Institutions require more structure than we need. We have codes but they are not what you would call laws. Our codes help us to be clear in our communication with each other. Sometimes they include processes. These processes are cultural. They don’t need to be codified. We understand them because they are passed down from older people to younger people through empathy, telepathy, and the experience of engagement with the processes.

It takes more than several human lifetimes for the transmission of all of this to be sufficiently strong that we can have confidence in our younger people to address questions of conflict resolution or behavior or relationships on their own. Part of our role as teachers, and their role as learners, is to come to a sufficient understanding. We are always providing guidance. In fact I am often guided by my own olders. We think of them as olders rather than as elders. Those words are awkward for us. Their being older, in our view, naturally creates what you would call the qualities of an elder. Your understanding of those qualities is not incorrect, but it is, if I may say it, vastly incomplete.

On Aging, Perspective, and the Promise of Experience

I invite you to consider what it might be like to live for 350 years. What could you accomplish with the maturing of your mind in that time? When you reflect on what you have learned in your 75 years’ incarnation, try to imagine what it would be like to have that multiplied several times in an environment that offers encouragement and guidance for it.

[I, as Wes, am invited/guided to explore Keith’s mind and heart to gain a glimpse of what 350 years of life might provide. The first impression I have is of internal peace. One factor in this is the resolution of many paradoxes of life, coupled with the understanding he has gained over the last 200 years or more that paradoxes disappear as experience and wisdom are gained. A second factor is the almost complete disappearance of the need to have a feeling of accomplishment or of leaving a legacy, a “monument to the ego,” as Keth expresses it. Depth of relationships is much more important, and the exploration of how to do that and how to enjoy the company of both similar and different others is one of the great sources of satisfaction for him. One additional factor, which seems to be less important but still of considerable interest for Keth, is his relationships with nonhuman entities of Second and First Densities.]

Origins and the Question of Creation

You have another question.

The question as I understand it is about our contact with intelligent nonhuman entities other than the Pleiadeans. A related question is whether we believe in a creator as an entity; another way of saying that is “What is our origin story?”

We are not of this planet originally. We were placed here, we whom you know as those of Mu or Lemuria. We were placed here. We do not know who placed us here. We do know that we were placed here with love and with gentleness.

Some of us suggest that there is an organization of beings from other places who have collaborated in our being here. We were brought here from somewhere else. We do not know where that place was or is.

Wes: It is possible that the Pleiadeans had a hand in the placement of humans in Lemuria. The lack of memory about these matters is a consequence of the Veil of Forgetting. Lemurians, like all humans, must come through that veil as they incarnate on earth.

The Veil, Free Will, and the Creator

Thank you for sharing with me your knowledge of the law of confusion and the veil of forgetting. This is not familiar to us, but there is a resonance within me with this principle. I am examining [this means that Keth is thinking about this idea and simultaneously discussing it telepathically with other Lemurians] your concepts of the collectives you know as Ra and Q’uo, and the stories of the One Infinite Creator choosing to allow free will to the infinite number of fragments of itself. We were until this moment unaware of this. It feels harmonious.

A Limitation on Telepathic Exchange

Keth asks Wes now how to contact Ra and Q’uo. I, as Wes, invite Keth to look into my mind and see the ways in which I have learned to do that. I am opening my memories.

It is not easy for me to look into the mind of Wes. I acknowledged that his mind is tougher than mine. He has had experiences that would be impossible here because of the telepathic connections that we have with each other.

This is too much for me. I need to work with him to find a way to access the information that has value for us in terms of his meditative practices and experiences. It is difficult to say whether my people could utilize those practices without inhibiting our telepathic selves more than I personally know how to do. There may be a way to engage several of us in those practices. I have a concern about my… health, if I am exposed to much to the experiences of my visitor. [Keth searches for a word here. His concern is for his mental integrity and stability, even his sanity. He chooses a euphemistic term.]

Past Lives

I see in the mind of my beloved self Wes a question about whether I am aware of my own past lives. This is not a question that I have addressed before this time. We are not driven by curiosity as much as by a desire to be creative and to work in harmony with all of our surroundings. It is pleasureful for us to be in the moment, which may entail remembering and may entail planning. Both of those things, looking back and looking forward, are done from the pleasure of the moment that moves continuously as “now”. We are not curious about past lives or the potential for past lives, nor are we curious about what is to come. We understand, from sensing it happen, that when we leave these bodies we will go somewhere else. We understand that place to be better than this one in that there is greater clarity and an even higher level of possibility for being together.

Non-Physical Travel and Extraterrestrial Contact

I see in your mind, my visitor, my self, a question about whether we travel off this planet in any form. Physically we do not. Some of us who have a degree of curiosity that impels us to explore have projected our consciousness to other places. Those who are capable of opening their consciousness in this way are the ones who first were contacted by the Pleiadeans. They were also contacted by those of the belt and sword of Orion, and of Arcturus.

The Pleiadeans have been a source of very good learning for us. They have brought us much understanding of beauty and love and wisdom. They have encouraged us in our own development. They prefer not to guide us. [It seems obvious from this comment that the Pleiadeans have understanding of the concept of free will and the law of respecting free will.]

Those of Orion would have us behave differently. We understand that we are protected from their influence by something, some entity or entities, that we are aware we can trust completely.

Our relationship with those of Arcturus is distant, somewhat formal and not well advanced. They may be somewhat similar to us in their — reticence is too strong a word — in their lack of need or desire to be cosmically social, if I may use that term. Like us, it seems that they are finding their exploration among themselves and within themselves of what is beautiful and good and true (these are good words that I find in your mind) is sufficient even while they recognize that there is more that can be explored.

Conflict Without Violence

I see in your mind a question about how we resolve conflict. Resolve is not the right word. Conflict is based in pain. It is very rare here. Our young people are nurtured carefully. We allow them to have conflict and we — “train” is not quite the right word — we “osmose” them, if you can accept that, with our ways of remaining in harmony except beyond a very minimal level of disagreement. If there is a disagreement that doesn’t dissolve in communication between or among the people involved, we defer to those who are older. They have the ability to resolve the paradoxes of conflict.

In my own life I have had situations of conflict with my children and my wife. We sit with each other and we feel with each other to understand what pain lies beneath the thing that appears as conflict. Most of the time, when that pain becomes evident the solution is obvious.

We do not have any kind of police force or weaponry, or any organized way of dominating others or defending ourselves that might harm another physically.

Cultural Accomplishments

I see in your mind a question, “What are you as a people most proud of as your accomplishments?”

We feel pride, not of an egotistical sort, but arising from a sense that we have advanced our cultural… beauty is the word that comes to mind. We are very satisfied with some of those things. One of them is that we do not need police or armed forces. We do not need codified ways of controlling behavior. We have arrived at and have maintained ways of being among ourselves that allow us to have rich interpersonal lives and to work together to build or create things that are useful, functional, pragmatic, and at the same time aesthetically highly satisfying, in cooperation and collaboration with the elements from which those things are created. We are proud of our ability to work with what you would call inanimate matter by helping it love to become things that we enjoy as well.

Personal Pain and Growth

I sense a query in you about “What mistakes have you made as a people, or Keth as an individual?”

The notion of “mistake” is an interesting one. I was involved in a relationship when I was younger that we mutually discovered to be unwise. We have personalities as you do, differing capabilities, different interests. It became evident in that relationship after about 40 years that our interests were not compatible. There was pain involved in the ending of that relationship, and both of us sought our healing. And yet even now, I should say even then, it didn’t feel like a mistake as much as it felt like a necessary experience for my own growth and the strengthening of my personality through the pain. We were both young and immature, and had not yet developed the level of conflict resolution or even conflict recognition skills that we both later came to possess. It may well be that developing those skills was enhanced by that painful part of my life.

[Keth also recognizes that the experience helped him develop a degree of mental toughness that has been valuable to him in his studies, his career, and his interpersonal and intimate relationships. He is not inclined to dwell or reflect on unpleasant experiences, but when I (Wes) directed his attention back to this failed relationship, he was able to understand and express how the experience had a positive effect on who he is now without leaving scars.]

Leadership and Collaboration

I have been very fortunate in my career in construction management to have made very few mistakes. My relationship with my colleagues and subordinates has been such that when I have shown an inclination to move toward a mistake, they have known that I need and welcome their wisdom. They have helped me to avoid errors.

I see in your ways of communicating that there is an immense gap between what you can communicate and what we can communicate simply because of our telepathic capability. We can have a conversation involving a dozen people, on a very complex issue, and resolve that issue or come to harmony on a course of action within minutes, or at most hours if reflection time is needed. We are unconstrained by formal procedures or anything resembling your legal framework. I understand that in your experience such conflicts can take weeks or years to resolve.

I do not know how we became telepathic, whether we were telepathic when we were placed here, whether it was induced by those who placed us, or whether we developed it from seeds or potential. We think that we had a hand in developing the capability and we certainly have had a hand in making it as effective as it is.

The Military Question and the Shadow of Atlantis

Mistakes that we may have made as a people is another question that you were asking about. Some have said that we should have developed, paid more attention to, given more resources to, developing what you would call a military capability. Those discussions arise from time to time over the years, the centuries. We believe that what we would lose from within ourselves and what we value — the beauty that we enjoy, the creativity that we enjoy, the mutual love that we enjoy — those would be damaged. The attitudes necessary to conceive of a military, and then the practices needed to create such a thing, would be very destructive to who we are, who we believe ourselves to be. So perhaps that lack of development of a military capability will turn out to have been one of our big mistakes. There are those among us who give their thought processes to the potential consequences of that as we look at those who are arising in Atlantis.

As I have mentioned, we have chosen not to fight, and we have chosen not to submit. Our course of action is not one that I care to express other than to let you know that we will probably disappear within the earth.

Future Incarnations; Trepidation About Becoming Wes

The thought of the future brings to mind a question that you have posed or have in your mind about my future lifetimes. I cannot see them, and I do not want the capability to see them. You have come to me as my own soul from a future lifetime. While I admire who you are, the thought that I would become you is not a pleasant one for me. Something will have been lost. [Keth seemed to be unaware that his soul can reincarnate in many different forms, human and otherwise, and that every soul chooses its own circumstances to best match its understood opportunities and needs for development. He appears to be thinking of himself as an ancestor to me in a physical lineage, with the responsibility and hope that that lineage passes on from one generation to the next. He appears to feel some responsibility for the circumstances within which I live.]

Service, Chakras, and Shared Spiritual Inquiry

I hope that you have learned enough of us, have understood enough of us, particularly of the first thing that brought us together, which was the chakras. I hope that this is valuable to you in the work that you have chosen to do on planet Earth in your current lifetime, so many thousands of years in my future.

Gratitude for New Concepts Introduced

You have stimulated in me a desire to know more about how I and my brothers and sisters here can be a benefit to you in your time. This is an entirely new area of thinking and endeavor for us. I am grateful to you for bringing into my world the concept of the One Infinite Creator, service to self/service to others (although these are confusing to me at this point) and the entities known as Ra and Q’uo, as well as others whose names I know but not their qualities, such as Hatonn and Latwii. I know there are others.

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Walking Together, a Shared Drink, and Sadness

May we walk? May we go somewhere beautiful? I would like to spend my remaining time with you that way. I will drink something that is very pleasant to us. This drink is one of our greatest pleasures.

(Wes notices that the drink served in a beautiful glass that resembles a martini glass. It has tiny gentle bubbles in it. Its flavor is — does ice blue have a flavor? Is there a fruit that tastes like this? There is a bite in this drink that I might think of as gin, the flavor of gin, not the alcohol.)

I enjoy this drink a lot, particularly with those whom I love. I am enjoying it now for your benefit, my visitor, to help me dispel some of the sadness that I feel when I consider what your life is like. This is my sadness, not yours. At the same time I feel that what you call catalyst could have changed the course of our existence, of our evolution, perhaps not for the better. We as a people are content with who we are, and if that thought is disquieting to me it is because I wonder if that means that we are not evolving any longer.

A Shift: Keth at 713

Let me shift now with you. [After the shift Keth is 713 years old, noticeably into his later years. We are in a different place than we were in the previous scene, but he is holding the same drink.] Thank you for noticing. I appreciate your observant powers, my visitor.

[At the time I was astonished and delighted by how he could shift several hundred years and some distance physically and still be holding the same drink. I had a momentary impulse to ask about that, but then had the thought, “That’s just how it is here.”]

Keth’s Wife, Her Death, and the Continuing Connection

You are wondering where my wife is. She died 13 years ago. It was a good parting. She comes to me from time to time, from a good place. I understand that she is working there. I do not know whether she is your Monica but when you thought the name “Sparkle” there was a burst of energy from her. I miss her physical presence. We had a long time together, even by our standards.

Returning to an Earlier Year

I see the question that you have brought forward: “Can we move back to younger periods in my life?” Yes, we can.

I see that you are working with the chakras, that you have received new insight about the chakras, and I am very pleased to notice this. I see the name Eloise, and she is the one who helped you to achieve this understanding.

Closing the Conversation

It is time now to bring our conversation to an end for this time because of the physical distraction that you are experiencing. So my self, my brother, I invite you to return to your time until our next time. Be blessed. Be one.

(I open my eyes, and I’m back in the bedroom, returned but glowing with this experience.)

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Lessons of the Journey

1. Wisdom develops through time and reflection

Keth explains that the extraordinary length of a Lemurian lifetime provides ample opportunity for learning, reflection, and the gradual accumulation of wisdom. Longevity alone is not sufficient; wisdom arises through continued reflection on experience rather than simply through the passage of time.

Relevance Today
Modern society often equates success with productivity, accomplishment, and continual movement “forward.” The Lemurian perspective is that a meaningful life is measured by how deeply we understand what we have lived. Creating intentional space for reflection is as important to personal growth as gaining new experiences.

2. Telepathic connection eliminates the need for external control

Keth describes a society in which universal telepathy allows each person to experience the thoughts and emotions of others directly. Because deception is effectively impossible, social harmony does not depend upon extensive laws or external enforcement.

Relevance Today
Modern societies typically respond to declining trust by creating more rules, regulations, and systems of enforcement. The Lemurian experience presents a different foundation: the genuine understanding that telepathy and telempathy create obviates the need for external control. While telepathy is not part of our everyday experience, deeper empathy, honesty, and mutual understanding could reduce the need for external controls.

3. Conflict is an opportunity for understanding

Keth describes disagreements as invitations to understand the underlying source of another person’s distress. The central question is what pain or unmet need underlies the conflict. Resolution seeks restoration rather than victory.

Relevance Today
Public discourse frequently encourages people to defend positions, win arguments, or defeat opponents. The Lemurian approach begins somewhere entirely different: with curiosity about the human experience beneath the disagreement. When understanding becomes the primary goal, lasting reconciliation becomes more attainable.

4. Shared support transforms suffering

Emotionally painful experiences are part of life in Lemuria. The individuals in pain are surrounded by a deeply connected community whose love and support help them integrate those experiences. The impact of telempathy, the deep sharing of the whole range of emotions, is profound beyond words.

Relevance Today
What differs from most of my society is that many people experience hardship in relative isolation, even while living among others. The Lemurian perspective suggests that resilience is strong from a young age because caring relationships help prevent suffering from becoming lasting emotional injury. Strong communities may be one of the most effective forms of healing available to us.

5. The pursuit of destructive power changes the people who pursue it

They understood that capability changes consciousness; that the development of destructive power reshapes attitudes, intentions, and identity, even if unused. Doing so would have destroyed their culture.

6. Their measure of success was relational depth based in beauty and love

In Lemuria, pride was found not in domination or expansion, but in sustained harmony, creativity, and shared meaning.

Relevance Today
When I return to my present life, these lessons do not feel idealistic. They do, however, sting, because they so clearly illuminate where we are separated, limited, and externally oriented.